Tuesday, March 6, 2012

JEDI'S VS AES SEDAI-THE FORCE VS CHANNELING

GRANDMASTER LUKE SKYWALKER

RAND al' THOR THE DRAGON REBORN

Straight up nerd moment right now.  I got into this debate with a friend of mine about The Force and Channeling.  I am a firm believer that the force isn't nearly as cool as channeling.  Yes I love Star Wars, that is not in debate here, what is in debate however is the overall awesomeness of the force against channeling.  Due to great movies and marketing the world knows the force while only a handful in comparison know of channeling.  Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series birthed channeling which is the act of being able to channel the one power.  The one power seems in most respects the force.  In it being this universal power that connects all things to each other and so and so forth.  The major difference between the force and channeling is the distinction that in channeling there are, for lack of  better wording, power threads.  To be specific they are made up of water, air, earth, fire, and spirit.  Where the force is just the force right?  Now after some quick online research it seems that Grandmaster Luke has crazy awesome force powers.  Some even mention God -like level powers.  I have read that he has galaxy level telepathy and telekinetic based powers that are strong enough to manipulate small black holes.  Which is pretty fucking cool actually.  Even with all that though he still can't fuck with the Dragon Reborn and the sheer might of his abilities to channel the one power.

To be fair the characters share a lot of the same traits, another thing my friend and I debated on but is not the point of this post.  They are both arguably the most powerful in their respective universes.  Which is good, because in a comparison such as this we need to take into account that Aes Sedai(like the dragon) and Jedi(like Luke) have varied levels of power and that these two have the greatest potential in their perspective universes.  Lets get to the nuts and bolts of this shit though.

Things that can be done to my knowledge with the FORCE
-move objects of varying size
don't be fooled by the plainness of moving objects as that encompasses a lot
-force lighting
-empathic like telepathy
to my knowledge jedi's are not Prof X like telepaths meaning they can't read everyone's mind, overly project thoughts, or turn mental energy into a physical manifestation
-the jedi mind trick/which is really more like a weak form of hypnosis

-pre cognition-physic like ability to predict future events

Things that can be done CHANNELING THE ONE POWER
-predicting and manipulating the weather which includes - lighting, air currents, ice
-earthquakes, locating and changing the form of earthly elements(metal made with one power or the unbreakable cuendillar)
-creating various forms of fire, explosions
-healing from almost any ailment short of actually reviving the dead
-compulsion-taking over a person's mind completely leaving no sense of self in the extreme but in varying degree's it can be as simple as forcing someone to forget
-mirrors of mist- the ability to create illusions
-gateways- a form of portal that allows one to open a door to another place no matter the distance as long the person can picture it in their mind
-balefire- a blinding light that actually erases whatever it touches out of existence
out of existence is a light way to put it, as the wheel of time believes in reincarnation and balefire actually removes the possibility of being reincarnated as well as destroys any influence that the object or person recently affected

These I'm sure on both sides are just the basics of what they can do.  At least I know for a fact that in the WOT there is an art per say to weaving the various power threads and inventing new ways to affect things with the one power.   I'm never heard of anything like that with the force.  

So hands down channeling is much more awesome, I mean the fact he can create portals is fucking amazing.  Not to mention balefire is quite the trump card, because as of yet I don't think in can be countered.

The force is the original dope power but it is really kibbles and bits in comparison to channeling.  Anyone who thinks different I'm willing to hear the argument.




1 comment:

  1. Balefire can be countered with the Flame of Tar Valon, which Egwene creates in the last book, A Memory of Light. Where Balefire destroys the Flame of Tar Valon creates anew. For instance in the last book Balefire was being used so often it was creating "cracks" in the pattern and leaving literal cracks into nothingness in the rocks, when Egwene channeled the Flame of Tar Valon the cracks where filled and the pattern was restored.

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